Comments on: Top 10 reasons D&D4E will be the worst RPG ever

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Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:57:28 +0000

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By: Ludus Novus » Blog Archive » The Space Beyond the Rules

Ludus Novus » Blog Archive » The Space Beyond the Rules — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:07:53 +0000

[...] the previous version of the game. I’ll spare you the details, as it’s been discussed ad absurdum elsewhere. It did get me thinking, though, about the role rules play in tabletop roleplaying [...]

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:46:04 +0000

Instead of adding onto the comment, I just wanted to link to an article on my own website about the topic:

http://www.dungeonstrategy.com/the-argument-for-4th-edition

By: Runedro

Runedro — Sat, 23 May 2009 17:54:21 +0000

lol

The only thing 3E, 3.5E and now 4E are good for is for new material to adapt to 2nd Ed.

2nd Ed. FOREVER!!! :)

By: Greg Barron

Greg Barron — Tue, 12 May 2009 14:19:30 +0000

4e will cost me another fortune…just lke 3 and 3.5 did. I’m sticking with 3.5…’cuz I’ve already got over $1K worth of books!

By: Simon Moore

Simon Moore — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:39:57 +0000

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The great novelty of D&D 1E was that you could play it with a plain A3 piece of paper, a pencil, some dice and a page from your note book.

Character Gen was like 5 minutes, you didn’t wine when it got hard, because it was always hard. You expected it to be. You had a party when your hero actually survived the adventure. Getting to level 5 was another deal all together. But you really had fun.

It wasn’t about the number of books you had, or the list of mega powers, your, fighter/wizard/avenger had or your collection of flash figures.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:19:05 +0000

I hate 4E I tried it and hated it. also they got rid of my favorite race half orcs. Unfortunetly i may have to switch to 4E for a number of reasons number one being that my payers want to play the new edition istead of 3.5

By: Mike The Merciless

Mike The Merciless — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:41:18 +0000

I didn’t mean that the rules were harder to understand for Conan or L5R. I meant that the game itself was harder in general in that it’s easier to die and harder to heal wounds. In Conan RPG, for instance, there are no healing spells and magic works differently. In L5R, if you get hit once by a weapon or a damaging spell, you could be killed, at almost any character level. In both games, there is no raising a dead PC to life.

I think a player who’s only played 4E might understand the rules of 1E and 2E fairly well. He might also find it more flexible, since the classes aren’t dedicated to any particular “role” as they are in 4E.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:13:04 +0000

Complaining that 4E is too easy?

So much focus on the rules. What happened to role playing over roll playing? Easier rules makes it easier to ignore the rules and deal with the theme and the characters and the story. And seriously, if 4E was 1E, would you really want to buy it all over again?

By: Mike The Merciless

Mike The Merciless — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:07:45 +0000

Where did the classics go? Obviously they’re coming out in more books for you to buy. In their efforts to attract new players to the hobby, they’re simultaneously patronizing them primarily because Wizards believes a good many of them are WoW players. One might surmise that Wizards doesn’t think too highly about the MMO player’s ability to understand that an MMO and a table-top RPG are not the same, and wouldn’t be since you can do infinitely more with your character on table-top games than you can with an MMO.

That’s why they made 4E more in line with an MMO. Some perhaps view this as a gate-way drug into role-playing, like Kurt Wiegel did in his YouTube review, but like him I am concerned with how these new players might respond to what else might be out there in the hobby. Already, when I started a new game of Conan with a player who only played 4E so far, he found playing Conan harder than he’s used to. I wouldn’t dare try him out on Legend of the Five Rings. If he thinks Conan’s tough, Rokugan would be too overwhelming.